"an idea at once so depraved and fantastical that it is hard to know where to begin to criticize it"
The precise subject of the piece hardly matters; it's just great to see such an uninhibited attack on Christi[ns]anity hosted on no less a site than washingtonpost.com.
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Curious article to say the least, but I'm not sure the point of these arguments anymore, you either have faith, and the imense amount of doubt that comes with faith, or you have non-faith and the imense amount of doubt that comes with that. The most poingant thing Sam stated was that we are a microcosm of a microcosm in a giant universe. That we can begin to understand our nature, divine or otherwise is laughable. And while much is carried out in the name of Gods and Masters on this planet, there are enough people carrying on producing energies that are far more constructive that such arguments seem banal. Even for the Post.
There are answers and there is evidence to any and alll arguments. Mostly there is non-truth, that is nothing is really certain and there isn't much use in worrying about it. I'm pretty much just into being alive, the cosmos, the heritics, the belivers and the gods be damned. nothing I can do about it, but live the good life.
Incidentally I beat the system. No wreckless drivings for me. Also we should hang out sometime and I am still willing to help on Give Me Back proof reading. Word to yr mother. and yr father. and yr mutton chops.
Well, I'm glad you're not languishing in a Virginia dungeon somewhere being forced to write "speed kills" on the dank walls with your own excrement over and over and over. And yes, we should hang out.
I am not as comfortable taking a live-and-let-live approach to religion or faith or whatever you want to call it. I happen to believe that "faith" is the single most damaging, retrograde idea the human race has ever produced, and it is actively pernicious to this day in all spheres of life in all corners of the globe. I'm not sure how one can "live the good life," as you say, without attacking religion.
I hear what you're saying about non-truth, but religion doesn't even rise to that level; it's still busy peddling non-facts and non-evidence. It wants to keep its place in the marketplace of ideas, but it doesn't want to play by the rules of rational argument. It's the biggest bully on the philosophical playground, and it's high time we secretly tied its shoelaces together, causing it to fall down and hurt itself very much.
Face it: you're either with me or you're with the believers. If you're with the believers, I shall publicly denounce you, stretch you on the rack, and then burn you at the stake. And then molest your children.
John
I am glad I don't have children. But no I am with you in sprit if not in practice anymore. I wholly agree that faith is a travesty that lacks reason. but I have found that arguing anymore with people who don't have reason is futile.
But I am not sure that it's really that simple. Religious organizations do some good and there have been many people that I have met who have acknowleged many of my own arguments as valid. But the point is those people had faith that they were right, and faith as I have stated is terribly difficult to shake out of someone.
I am much more concerned with people's actions rather then the mess they have in there head. Dogamatism, more so then theology, is what is so damaging in my opinion. It's not the ideas I have a problem with, it is that they are presented as fact that bothers me the most. What might be right for you may not be right for some goes the theme song to a popular 70's TV show, and it's one I beleive.
So yes, I think these debates are worthwhile, but I think it's high time we let the religious, pious people's have them. For you are not going to sway me into beleiving in these fairy tales (coincidentally though I do think there is enough evidence to prove that a dude they called Jesus, a dude they called mohamed and a dude they ended up calling buddaha did exist, weather they were philosophers of great influence or divinely touched I have no clue). But a bunch of atheiests and non-beleivers aren't going to turn this on it's head. People have to find reason themselves, or stop ignoring it. You can show them the field, but if they refuse to acknowledge it all you can do is throw them in it and hope they figure it out themselves while you go and get a burrito.
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